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Jim KABLE's avatar

In the late 1990s I fell out with a friend - in Japan - over a 1995 book (The Voice of Asia: Two Leaders Discuss the Coming Century) he had excitedly asked me to read - a conversation between the ultranationalist (misogynistic, xenophobic and racist) and later Governor of Tōkyō 1999-2012 - ISHIHARA Shintarō (a literary figure - in 1956 he won the Akutagawa Prize) and Malaysia's Prime Minister - Mahathir bin Mohamad. Ishihara was a controversial populist in many respects. The book - written in Japanese: "The Asia That Can Say No" which I was asked to read was more a rant - unsupported prejudiced stereotypes - at least that was how I saw it. Even when I thought I agreed - on some levels - with the general thrust of suspicion about colonialism, etc. I think I was marking it as a teacher - an essay in History - vague sweeping unsupported statements. The book required a good edit and then to be supported by lots of foot-notes.

And I was already an admirer of Anwar Ibrahim and had written to him to tell him so in 1998 after reading an article (Newsweek?) about his hopes for Malaysia not long before he was removed from his posts as Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance by Mahathir that same year. Of course many years later there was a rapprochement. I had an aunt and uncle who lived many years in the 1960s and 1970s in Malaysia - mostly in Petaling Jaya (KL) and had visited them in 1973 - and on other occasions visited parts of west coast Malaysia (in 1977, in 1985) and Sabah in 2015. And taught ethnic Chinese students who had come to Australia as part of their university education otherwise more-or-less denied them in Malaysia by the exclusionary bumiputra policies of the government.

Anyway, Patrick, I am writing in approval of your essay - and of course of your references to fellow Australians George (son of Wilfred) Burchett and PIB - and of John Menadue (Pearls and Irritations). And bravo to Mahathir bin Mohamad.

Bindoner's avatar

Thank you for this, I'd probably never have seen it otherwise, let alone had it explained with context and nuanced understanding.

David Hutchinson's avatar

The imposter has just been hiding how it fakes us out until now [well, it didn't fake Gandhi out]. There was the technology, and there was what Ellul called <i>technique</i>. What did they preach? Utopia! Promises, promises; more and more and more wild promises. Getting to the moon, un-metered electricity, anti-gravity cars, and on and on. Yes, the middle "M" in MICIMATT had amped up the promises of technique and technology even more..."M" for media, electronic media. There were the principles of the Jews [some very, very honed principles]. But, of all things, they lost out to media glorified "tradecraft"...tradecraft of spies. We might as well have been constantly reading chivalry novels like the folks Cervantes thought had gone out too far on flimsy limbs. Speaking of trade, remember when we thought NAFTA, TPP, and USMCA were weird? Way back in olden times?

"No war can be waged unless the enemy can be converted into the carrier of a shadow projection; and the lust and joy of warlike conflict, without which no human being can be induced to actually fight in a war, is derived from the satisfaction of the unconscious shadow side." Erich Neumann

I haven't been able to get much deeper than that "lust and joy" thing, except maybe with "Dualism and the Philosophy of the Soul," Robert Bolton.

Bob Martin's avatar

Why not post the whole list? Our can you say where we can access it? Thanks!

Bindoner's avatar

There are links in the paragraph just before point No. 1. The second link is the easier for just reading the full list, as the X link is to the whole account, and not directly to the thread.