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Tedder130's avatar

I understand pessimism in light of the UN vote and the events that caused it. My sense about China's and Russia's abstention is that they have pretty much given up on the international body. Their vote was a "Whatever. You guys do what you have to do. We're going to take a walk."

As for China and Russia, please don't fall into the capitalist trope that China is not a socialist/Communist country. "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" is a recognition that every country's socialism will be unique to its prevailing conditions. This is straight out of Marx. China's is a mixed economy and while there are problems, she is doing quite well.

I believe that Russia never abandoned Soviet communism, they just accommodated the West, and as a people they have not abandoned the 'faith' in communal cooperation, just augmenting it with faith in Christianity and Islam, maybe Judaism, and who knows what other spiritual traditions. For one thing, Russia could not have ever dominated the battlefield in its ongoing war with NATO without belief in Mother Russia, a collective entity going back thousands of years. Nor could her military industries produce if they held capitalism's profit motive. Actually, what holds Russia back are remnants of Atlanticism, including the neoliberalism of the Central Bank.

Ed's avatar
Mar 26Edited

These nations see the writing on the wall and are desperate to save their own asses.

They realize that the US/Zionist cabal are vicious and adhere to no humane principles whatsoever. They don't want to end up like Libya, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Venezuela or Cuba (amongst other who have suffered under the bootheel of the US/Zionist war machine since the turn of the century).

This is the guiding principle for America......'We are the United States. We are the most powerful country in the history of the world. We stand taller and see further. You will do what we tell you to do. If you don't, we will smash your face in.' And our little sidekick the State of Israel (the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism) behaves exactly the same way.

Tom Welsh's avatar

Two words occur to me: "money" and "pragmatism".

A pandemic of plutocracy (money-worship) is spreading across the entire world, gradually burying older, better values such as loyalty, duty, honour, and kindness. Each successive generation seems more cynical and selfish, and - worse still - blind to the obvious advantages of cooperation. The gospel emanating from the USA is Gordon Gecko's "greed is good", supplemented by the distortion of Adam Smith to pretend that "the market" will produce the best outcomes for everyone if each person strives single-mindedly for their own advantage.

Pragmatism, recently given such a bad name by Mr Modi, would not be so harmful if it were at least enlightened and intelligent. We are told that it is not Mr Putin's or Mr Xi's job to help others - they must stick rigidly to pursuing their own national interests. But what exactly is meant by "national interests"? All too often the further enrichment of the wealthy and powerful - the oligarchs - at the expense of the great majority of citizens.

When the UN, as one of its first acts in 1948, voted in favour of the partition of Palestine, it was a straw in the wind. First wealthy Jews bribed President Harry Truman with millions of dollars to support his reelection; then Truman whipped on the whole massive US government machine to promote the cause of Zionism; and finally massive bribery led to the motion being passed by the narrowest of margins. One credible source claims that expensive fur coats were sent to the wives and mistresses of every single UN representative. To her immense credit, he adds that only the Cuban lady had the decency to send hers back.

David Hutchinson's avatar

Amazing re Robert Maxwell. One can see how he landed where he landed. How could his daughter have fallen for Epstein?

"Ghislaine Maxwell’s Father Sold Bugged Israeli Software to Two Nuclear Weapons Labs in New Mexico. Then His Daughter Led Jeffrey Epstein to Purchase a Ranch Located Halfway Between Them."

Even with these treadmills giving away troop locations, everyone bought all this stuff without checking it first? [or I guess after the treadmills they KEPT buying it?] Maybe all the folks Gates wouldn't hire SHOULD have been hired by someone to do the checking. What's the one Barak & Epstein were trying to sell to Mongolia? GoogleAI told me there is at least one claim Barak was tied to BriefCam? Seems that one sends info back to the makers (like all the rest of'em?).

I'm tempted to ask AI what percent of Russians liked Yeltsin...at first. The dark satanic mills have burnt out folks so bad they don't know who to like?

Big bureaucracies these days almost cannot even be understood, and, when they trend authoritarian, then you have so much instability (egotistical inept rulers) you start heading for WWIII. If Putin weren't a such fluky exception, no telling how many humans would have made it to March 2026. The seed savers make sense. I found a fair amount of Charbonneau pages online. https://files.libcom.org/files/The%20Garden%20of%20Babylon%20-%20Bernard%20Charbonneau.pdf

David Hutchinson's avatar

Sorry, no question mark after BriefCam.

David Hutchinson's avatar

Paulo Kirk's substack seems to be drawing from this thing I'm looking which claims to be by one Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez.

That writer's the source of the three sentences below in quote marks...that seem to suggest Epstein may have been a Mossad/Russia double agent, AND someone who harvested neonatal cardiac cells from newborns within thirty days of birth (or even a triple agent if you include U.S.). Yeah, I'd say such claims have the look of attempting to be sensational. Is there anyone who has given reasons for the assertion that whatever information Epstein delivered to Russia would have been extremely limited? Though it reveals too much about how far one activist's mind reaches, I put that question to ChatGPT. Seems to me like Epstein could have simply seen in Belyakov a customer for PROMIS software or BriefCam gear (not sure which).

"Epstein’s own connections to Russian intelligence infrastructure are documented in the federal files. Sergei Belyakov — a graduate of the FSB Academy, which trains Russian intelligence officers, and the man who ran Putin’s flagship St. Petersburg International Economic Forum — met with Epstein at least five times. Epstein referred to him in correspondence as ‘my very good friend.’ According to the files, Belyakov helped Epstein obtain Russian visas, gathered intelligence on a woman Epstein claimed was attempting to blackmail American businessmen, and used Epstein to arrange meetings with American billionaires Peter Thiel and Thomas Pritzker." Collective Evolution, Valdes-Rodriguez.

I won't quote much from the answer AI gave me: "1) What the claim is based on (and its status)

"The story about Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine Maxwell’s father) distributing bugged PROMIS software to U.S. nuclear labs does have a historical allegation behind it:

"Investigations and books in the 1980s–90s alleged that modified PROMIS software could act as a backdoor for intelligence gathering.

"Maxwell was allegedly involved in selling such software globally, including to

Sandia National Laboratories

Los Alamos National Laboratory

"However:

"A U.S. Justice Department review found 'no credible evidence' of a government conspiracy in the INSLAW/PROMIS case.

"Much of the narrative remains disputed, partially sourced, or tied to intelligence-community rumors, not confirmed findings.

"So Collective Evolution is repackaging a controversial, unresolved allegation, not reporting a widely accepted fact.

"2) Has Russia officially responded?

"There is no record of any official response from:

the Russia government

Russian foreign ministry statements

Russian intelligence or defense agencies

major Russian state media (e.g., RT, TASS)

…specifically addressing this claim about Maxwell, PROMIS, or U.S. nuclear labs."

"That absence is notable given that Russia:

routinely comments on U.S. nuclear security issues

frequently amplifies espionage scandals when credible"

"If this were treated as a confirmed breach, you would expect at least propaganda use—but there isn’t any documented case."

Godfree Roberts's avatar

You've made more and bigger assumptions here than the evidence will support. None of those countries will get turned away if they ask for something from China. Iran refused all kinds of help from Beijing–from currency stabilization to weapons–but said that to them, 'independence' means exactly what it says. The UN vote, plus the slavery vote make the UN a walking corpse.

Mark Watson's avatar

Who owns the UN? Who provides most of the funding and hosts it ? Follow the money - and check who in the UN hierarchy is on the Epstein list...

J M Hatch's avatar

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The Relentless Rise Of The Indian Comprador Bourgeoisie

Roberto Zanconi's avatar

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